As a serial online entrepreneur, I investigate and invest a lot of different programs. Some are definitely worth the money while others are a complete waste of time.
Recently I ran across a Project Payday review and decided to take a closer look it seems to be a pretty solid way to make a few extra dollars online. The question on my mind, obviously, was is project payday a scam or real? Can you really make money or are most people wasting their time?
Project Payday Scam or Real?
In a nutshell, the project payday system teaches you how to sign up and promote various CPA offers using what is called an incentivized offer. CPA stands for “cost per action” and you get paid when someone completes the required action. For example, the offer might be to “Enter Your Email to Win a Free Ipod” or maybe “Receive a Bottle of Our Wonder Drug for Only $4.95 Shipping”. So the idea is you sign up for these offers and promote them by driving traffic to the offer. If someone gives up their email, zip code or accepts the trial offer or whatever… you earn a commission.
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So far so good. There are lots of people who make a very nice six-figure, even 7-figure income promoting CPA offers. In fact, over the years I’ve made tens of thousands promoting various CPA offers by hosting banners on my websites, running small classified ads and even doing a bit of paid advertising. So if you want to learn more about the art and science of promoting FREE OFFERS to earn a nice living, check out “The Dirty CPA” course which is one of the better ones out there.
But lets get back to the question: “Is Project Payday a Scam or Real?”
Here’s the challenge. In the above example this company offers a lottery ticket buying service. They make a profit only when people sign up and purchase lottery tickets. In order to get more LEADS they are willing to pay people like me and you to promote their offer and, for example, let’s say they pay $10 per lead because they’ve worked out that, in the long run, they will earn an average of $20 per lead. It might take five or six leads before they get an order, but they know they can make a profit paying these types of affiliate commissions if they leads they are truly interested in buying lottery tickets from around the world.
The Project Payday Scam
So let’s say I offer you $5 to go fill out the form (which is free to you) – knowing I’ll get paid $10 when you do. Seems like a good deal, right? You earn $5 for completing a short form that doesn’t cost you anything except a few minutes of your time… and I earn $5. But here’s the rub. YOU were “incentivized” to give up your information. You may or may not have been truly interested in buying lottery tickets around the world. So the company loses out big time! And this is the strategy the project payday scam teaches – find high paying offers, pay people for taking the action required, and pocket the profits. The company, in a very real sense, gets scammed. Don’t you think?
Now to be fair, there are a lot of CPA offers that allow you to incentivize them. Most of them, however, offer a tiny payout of $1.15 to $1.35 per zip code or email submit. Which means you would have to process a lot of these FREE OFFERS to make any serious money.
So, I dug pretty deep into this program and into the marketing methods of those promoting program. With rare exception, I found the sites they were promoting or hosting their CPA on were down and their CPA accounts were closed. Because the reality is this project payday scam method is a scam. Plain and simple. And while you MIGHT get paid initially, when the company finally wakes up to the fact that the majority of your leads are not converting to sale – they can actually reverse payments made and you’ll lose time, money and your online reputation. Why risk it?
There are much, much better ways to make significant money online by promoting CPA offers fairly. One way, of course, is simply to write short articles about the product, service or free offer and link back to the offer from the article. It’s free and very effective.
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I feel project payday is a major scam. I worked for them a couple of years ago. That same lady is still on the front page of the website (that is too funny!!), and I can not believe project payday is still around. I invested $25.00 with them and did not make a cent, because of the number of offers I had to fill out. They are one of the reasons I started blogging about work at home scams. Very disappointing! Great site and great information.
Best Wishes
Thanks for sharing. I think it’s wonderful when people step up and step out to keep the industry honest. Great work. We appreciate it.
I thank u 2! I just came across this Praoject Payday website & was a little skeptical (although I truly wanted to believe it was legit!) I’m glad I had enuff sense 2 check it out 1st & I’m grateful 4 ur honest opinon! Well, I’m guessing the only way 4 me to really make any xtra $$ is 2 get a part-time job!
Well, have you run across any work from home sites that are worth the time & effort. I have thought of everything I can from secret shopper to online surveys & keep running across scams. I would think that as most people email, blog & with the popularity of social sites there should be some sort of legit work from home opportunities out there or am I fooling myself in thinking that?
Work from home – in the sense of sites hiring you or paying you to actually DO something – yeah, pretty much are scam offerings. If you are good at something like typing or data entry, research, writing, graphics, web design – you can go to sites like odesk.com and market your services. Other than that – consider building a business to create your own “work” from which you get paid. See http://fast.cashbychoice.com as an example where we show you how to blog to make money (we did 30k last month by blogging).
Rob,
What’s the catch? How is this possible? I’m so skeptical about anything on the internet for making money that I have spent very little trying to make it happen. I’m literally ‘scared’ to touch anything. How can someone make it happen? Show me before I blow hundreds and make the wife mad.
Dan
In my opinion, Project Payday is a scam. So it’s not possible…
I’m so glad I found this site before making the biggest mistake of my life and join up with Project Payday. Excellent review, save me from being rip-off and my lesson of the day is always do a back ground check first before joining any marketing programs… Thank You!
I have never really tried doing online marketing before (because I thought it was too good to be true) but I got a check from project payday riches and I am a fan! They pay weekly and I got paid $209 for one week. I got paid direct deposit and they were right on time. I hope they stick around because it works great to me!
ProjectPayDay is NOT a SCAM. I’ve made over $140k in one yr with PPD …AND THEY HAVE AN A RATING WITH BBB. Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.
Thanks for sharing, CM. Sounds as if you have found your niche. Good for you…
Hi Rob,
So where do you fit in, in the scheme of things? You mention that over the years you have made a good deal of money with CPA type programs. So are some of the links in the above article some of the incentivized offers that you are affiliated with? How does a person know who or what to believe? I’m very honestly interested in a more global answer to these questions. Then more specifically, are you familiar with, and what is your take on “Just Been Paid”?
Look forward to your response.
SS
Who to believe? I would look for two or three people who have already achieved the results you are looking for and simply model what they are doing. Never heard of just been paid. We make multiple six-figures in affiliate marketing and network marketing.
Thanks for the review Rob. I just had a pretty good and respectable marketer send me info on this and it seemed suspect to me (and I’m a huge opportunist). The point you make about the incentive is key and is the main reason many CPA networks make you qualify to be a part of them. I appreciate your thoughts.
Hey Rob,
I respect you and your marketing skills as I’ve heard of your success through Empower Network and the Network Marketing Industry, but in regards to Project Payday I have to say that you may want to do a bit more research. It is very clear in their terms and conditions that you DON’T use any incentivized methods to drive traffic to their site(at least for the referral program). I only use the referral method as a means of generating income from PPD and it works just as many other CPA offers work. We get paid anywhere from $1.50 to $5 per lead that completes the mini form on the PPD home page. As far as the other 3 methods of earning money with the company, I can’t really speak on those. I only know that I’ve made money and continue to make the most I’ve ever made online simply promoting PPD.
rob just a curious question, are you making money from home and if so how well does it work for you and would it work well for others? thanks
Chuck – read more of my blog. We make a multiple six-figure business working from home and haven’t had “jobs” since 1996. We DO NOT do project payday, however.
Hey Rob,
Just wondering what work from home jobs you work with that make 6 figures? …I’m looking for a legitimate job where I can make money from home…thanks!
Dayana, I don’t think there is any “job” online that will pay you six-figures. To make that kind of money you will need to build a business. For most people who are just getting started I recommend Empower Network. We did $30,000 our first 45 days and now, eight months into it, we are averaging $23,000+ per month in residual income.
I guess the main thing is find your niche & what works for you. I see you’re a fan of Empower Network;but I’ve had 3 people tell me its a waste of time & money…..unless you want to keep making someone else rich! I,myself,average about 150/week with PPD and thats only doing it in my spare time.
$150 a week is a good start. We do about $2,000 PER DAY now so keep the faith and keep going.
Empower Network is like most 2-tier affiliate programs. You get out of it EXACTLY what you put into it. If you don’t learn, apply and take action – it will cost you money. If you do, you’ll make money. We pull in over $30,000 PER MONTH from Empower Network after only 10 months and we have dozens of people on our team who are also making more money now than they ever have before in their lives. So, yeah – to each their own.
Rob, I don`t understand…I join EN back in June and I only got one person and I followed the eight steps, I did a blog everyday and did the marketing for about hour or more like for about 8 hours but I received nothing, absolutely no results at all. I do not have much income for paid advertising, I have just using free ads, classifieds ads, craigslist and etc but I cannot seem to get any results. I have tried other blogging sites but seems I would need professional writings skills to be accepted. Was turned by ezinearticles .com 4 times so what I am doing wrong?
Thank you Rob for clarifying this….you never know what they’re trying to pitch and I appreciate you looking at that from all sides.
Man, this is an excellent review!
I first checked the IMReport Card review, which has a very high rank, but that text was vague on really important information.
I was about to try the Project Payday… however i searched for other reviews and after i read your’s… Well, for me is now Project ByeBye, ’cause i won’t sign in for sure!
Good Work Rob!
Thanks, Nuno. Appreciate the feedback. I do know some people who are making money with the program but it just doesn’t seem the right way to go about it…
Rob, I have been approached by Ecommerce Consulting to work with them initiating drops into EBay, Google, and Amazon. They say that if I pay $4500 up front, they will provide me with all of the one on one training that I need to really do this and make some pretty good money in a year. They also go by Commission Interception. Have you ever heard of these guys and are they on the up and up. I am starting to be involved with Empower Network and also do copywriting and internet research for a few companies. I don’t want to make a hugh investment unless the Ecommerce Business is for real. Your thoughts please! Thanks.
Nope, never heard of them and it sounds like they are charging a pretty steep fee to teach you affiliate marketing. There a lot of HOW TO courses out there and you would be better served going ALL IN with Empower Network and learn from them I would think.
Thanks for sharing Rob! I ran across this Project Payday as a front end system for promoting a very good (legit) program that you and I both promote. It was marketed to me as a way to fund an advertising budget. I was about to sign up but something held me back so I did a search for Project Payday and found this article. Now I will not waste my time with it.
Hey Tom – I actually tested this as a front-end promotion of Empower Network and, frankly, it didn’t produce great results as the “process” is complicated. We self-funded enough to recapture cost but then I stopped using it. Plus, the actual Project Payday model, I think… is somewhat bogus.
Hi Rob, I was really close to pulling the trigger on PPD. It sounded really easy for some one like me not having any experience with computers or marketing. I’m unfortunately now in a position where I have to find another source of income because of an industrial accident. You’ve mentioned Empower Network several times in your replies. Can some one with a lot of time on there hands, no experience, hardly any computer experience and very limited funds do what your describing or would i just be wasting my time? Thank you for reading my inquiry and I appreciate any response you may have.
Yes, Robert – the major idea behind Empower Network was people with no experience could get in and “get busy” right away without having to go through the learning curve of building and setting up a blog, etc., etc. When you join, I also give you access to our private team training site where I literally show you, step by step, what we do to make 40k per month now. With time… you actually have a HUGE advantage.
You can review our team training site here. http://members.empowernetworkuniversity.com
Working at home can seem to hard and overwhelming unless you’re a computer whiz, i found easy ways to make money without the need of any special skills on here, its great =]
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so, rob. i have a question.
i came across PPD. and read your article. then i started reading the comments from other people. which is always good.
it almost sounds like PPD is your competitor.. and you’re bashing them because you want everyone to go to EN?
lacimichelle90 No, in fact we have promoted PPD as an alternative to other programs… but if you read my post… I am simply sharing I do not think it is an ETHICAL way to make money to offer incentives to join a company or take advantage of a product offering… then have the cancel. But a LOT of people are fine with that model and if that is you… go for it.
I was a little skeptical at first but once I applied a little effort; I started making thousands of dollars a month. Now im up to $5,000 a month. Project Payday can be very profitable if you know how to utilize it properly.
Can’t say that I see a $5,000 per month potential with Project Payday since it is a one-up affiliate program – meaning you get paid ONCE when you make a sale. So to pull in $5,000 a month you would need to make 2500 sales each and every month and you would have to be a TRAFFIC GOD to make this happen. But thanks for sharing.
Project Payday has to options to join. One, you can pay the $34.95 up front membership fee or complete an offer. I chose to complete an offer for $7.99 and received full access to the site and features and surpassed that $7.99 with my earnings. It’s easy to make money with it, you just have to be smart about it.
Thanks for sharing, Nate… appreciate it. But, yeah – there are a lot of ways to get into the system and promote the system as well.
There are a lot of scam sites online. You will need to do your research first before paying up anything. Some materials that teach you how to make money are legitimate however you will need to exert time and effort to make it work for you. If you want to make money without investing even a little amount, then there are sites that you can join but don’t expect an easy job.
Thanks for sharing, Freelancer – and you are absolutely right. There ARE NO FREE LUNCHES when it comes to building a real business. If there really was such as thing as PUSH BUTTON EASY – we would all be doing it.
Tammy – there are a lot of legitimate programs available to you. For someone just getting started I would highly recommend you take a close, hard look at Empower Network.
James – bottom line, if you what you have been doing isn’t working, do something different. If you can get articles accepted by someone doing a human review, you might want to consider getting someone to write for you. FIRST IMPRESSIONS are huge. Why would someone want to JOIN you? Think about that… feature that… and make it a no brainer for people. I personally don’t do any paid advertising. I just write great content and focus on getting that content to rank on the search engines. If you aren’t ready for that yet, there are very powerful ways to get free traffic. See http://freedom.postingonpurpose.com